Alyana says: do u fast Sa3ed says: nope do you? Alyana says: yuo u dont lol dont u wana try to? Sa3ed says: i used to zamaan then no lol and no i dont wanna try >.< Alyana says: why Sa3ed says: i dunno dont feel like it Alyana says: u dont have to feel like it Sa3ed says: o.0 huh? lol Alyana says: exactly Alyana says: there are something thing u do which u dont have to feel like just do it Sa3ed says: give me a good reason lol btw what you said still didnt make sense Alyana says: sometimes its healthy to take a parallel road Sa3ed says: well yeah, i used to fast, now i dont Alyana says: what didnt make sense? Sa3ed says: and some days i dont eat alot its a bunch of roads xD Alyana says: why did u used to fast? what happend now? Sa3ed says: coz i was a kid and used to just be scared, and i didnt think about why i fasted i just did Alyana says: well u get good deads if u do Sa3ed says: and i learned some discipline from it, but i dont really feel like fasting anymore lol, i get good deeds from a lotta things other than just not eating Alyana says: its not about Not eating Ramadan is not defined as: a month of just not eating its true u do get good deed by other things but this month is like an offer Sa3ed says: lol Alyana says: of getting double and tripple the deeds lool dont laugh\ its true Sa3ed says: shoo sales? xD yeah i remember hearing that from school, but it doesnt make sense to like, do good in the month, and then end up forgetting aobut it the rest of the year Alyana says: mu sales am tryna talk in a way u;d understand it lool Sa3ed says: whic ha lotta people do coz of them being forced to do it lol yeah i know what tou mean xD Alyana says: ita not about that its not like how u phrased it Sa3ed says: lol i know but inno the point is Alyana says: aha..? Sa3ed says: even if it's an offer to get even more "good deeds", the idea of "an offer" just seems like a bad idea, since people should be doing good the whole year and i do that Alyana says: u do good all the year but in this month Sa3ed says: and i'll keep it up through the month, but i'll eat lol Alyana says: its called shahr el maghfirah which means Sa3ed says: forgiveness Alyana says: the doors of heaven opens and dors of hell closes its like do one tiny good thing and u;d bunch of good deeds so why not do the '3ibadeh' which u r required to do Sa3ed says: but why do i need to if im already doing good stufF? lol Alyana says: coz the wrong stuff u did all year long will be forgiven If u do what u r asked for Sa3ed says: i am pretty sure i probably did NOTHING wrong all year, except for failing classes lol Alyana says: u think 'drinking' is not wrong in a way? Sa3ed says: i dont think it is wrong to be honest Alyana says: did u Not curse at anyone in this year? Sa3ed says: yeah, but why is cursing bad if it does no harm? Alyana says: for every action u do u either get a good or bad deed for it Sa3ed says: i mean unless you insult someone, and i didnt insult anyone Alyana says: how can u tell that it does no harm Sa3ed says: can't you tell when you harm someone? Alyana says: not all the time if u wer in a cab and u cursed at a guy without him knowing u take all the bad deeds very small actions Sa3ed says: not really, did you never curse at someone in your head? Alyana says: i do Sa3ed says: and why would i take bad deeds if i didnt hurt anyone? it's not like i got outta the car wo i told him "yee shoo 7mar, what are you doing? leish nayem 3al matab" Alyana says: coz u know how it is said: al2a3mal bel niyyat nayem 3al matab? lmao Sa3ed says: yeah, and if my intention is venting out the fact that the dude in the car pissed me off, why would it be bad? looool yeah when they slow down 3ala matab xD Alyana says: lool see Sa3ed says: what? o.0 Alyana says: thats how u think about things Sa3ed says: and....? Alyana says: u think good and bad deeds are only about if u harm others or not Sa3ed says: of course it is give me a bad deed that odesnt hurt anyone Alyana says: what about religion? God what he asks from u the 5 basics.. u not fasting ramadan is a bad deed wich doesnt harm anyone Sa3ed says: well, my idea of god is that hes understanding, and no offense 3anjad, but i don't imagine god as an entity wanting people to give him attention yeah well me not fasting isnt really a bad deed why would it be a bad deed if i didnt fast? Alyana says: ok why did God ask people to fast from the first place then? Sa3ed says: well Alyana says: coz its a rule set which u have to fallow Sa3ed says: no i dont think so Alyana says: a ule with benefits Sa3ed says: i think he created fasting in order for people to realize the value of what they have no, the cause comes before the effect Alyana says: exactly...its a rule with a lot of benefits Sa3ed says: it's not like "okay fast" then he thought "oh this is useful!" lol no it's benefits which became a rule i got my benefit Alyana says: tayyeb mtl drinking Sa3ed says: and i have value for everything Alyana says: people used to drink zman and it was allowed but then when people started to abuse it and get drunk sarat forbiden Sa3ed says: yeah im not abusing it and actually Alyana says: so that means Sa3ed says: its not coz they abuse it -.- Alyana says: there is a reason Sa3ed says: because they started sleeping around, going crazy hurting eachother Alyana says: for everything we are asked for Sa3ed says: there IS a reason and thats why i do something and consider the reason of it, not the rule Alyana says: exactly Sa3ed says: i drink Alyana says: well there are a lot of thing we as humans dont know the reasons of it Sa3ed says: but when im drunk, i dont sleep around and get people pregnant, in fact when i drink, a lot of people enjoy my company Alyana says: so to stay on the safe side..u just do all what u r asked for Sa3ed says: well i dont think it should be a safe side thing, i mean god would understand why you do things, and he would get pissed if you like.. do something wrong doing something wrong is different that NOT doing something right (on a personal scale) Alyana says: like..? Sa3ed says: and if we never make mistakes we will never learn Alyana says: not doing what he is askig u to do Sa3ed says: huh? okay, tab whats the logic behind him asking us to do things? answer is the fact that he wants us to learn things not coz he just wants us to follow Alyana says: exactly Sa3ed says: so i dont think he'd mind if we learned our lessons exactly -.- Alyana says: its not just about learing a lesson Sa3ed says: willa? what do u think it is? Alyana says: its a 3ibadeh its like prayng Sa3ed says: praying is in fact meditation, kinda like a time to be alone with yourself Alyana says: and he was reallly easy on people and made it only one month of the year not the whole year Sa3ed says: dude Alyana says: lool i just love those arguments..i do em every ramadan with different people Sa3ed says: yeah ur not very good at them its like no matter what i say you end up at "just do what he says" lol and i tell you, i did what he said a few times, and i learned the lessons why should i do it again if i value everything and i have morals higher than people who do pray (biggest example. my aunt's husband) hes a nassab but he has a le7yeh and prays and went to 3omra and hes greedy Alyana says: no saed Sa3ed says: dude -.- Alyana says: its deeper than that i jsut dont know how to explain it to you Sa3ed says: coz you dont know the explaination -.- Alyana says: alyana is not good at talking Sa3ed says: looool keef its deeper? Alyana says: but if only u get into my head u know what i mean i do know the explanation ofcours Sa3ed says: if you're gonna be talking about how you have to be at his mercy in order to live, and that he wnats us to live at his mercy i really disagree Alyana says: why u think i do fast from the first place Sa3ed says: tab say it lol Alyana says: i;ve been telling u Sa3ed says: its deep, and i do know that depth and i reach it whether i do everything he says or not -.- Alyana says: but coz u dont belive in God from the first place. Sa3ed says: ma da5al -.- Alyana says: then ur nt gna get convised law mallion saneh dakhal Sa3ed says: dude -.- 1st, im agnostic, not an atheist Alyana says: coz u dont believe in having 'basics' in ur religion Sa3ed says: huh? i dont get what you meant the last thing by the last thing* Alyana says: basics? Sa3ed says: the whole statement Alyana says: there are difference in every religion christiany, islam and jew are close and shi wa7ed that makes em different or shaghliten Islam believe in one God and mohd his prophet Sa3ed says: dude ur going off topic Alyana says: and thr book is Quraan wait christianity, jesus son of god and thr book is the bible what r u? what book do u have? Sa3ed says: lol Alyana says: and what do u exactly believe in? Sa3ed says: okay can i talk now? Alyana says: 2al calculus beh Sa3ed says: looooool Alyana says: ok.. Sa3ed says: HAHA okay Alyana says: oh yeah i got a 6 Sa3ed says: wait we'll talk about that later Alyana says: lol Sa3ed says: okay what i believe in is that god does exist and every religion is a person's (prophet's) method of reaching god that is all it's that simpl simple* now some religions say that drinking is bad, because probably at the time it started, people drank in a completely irresponsible manner arent religions all from the same god? then why would god tell christians it's okay to drink responsibly, while in islam it's completely wrong? because each was at a different time each were brought by different people and people acted differently at the time Alyana says: exactly Sa3ed says: why was there 7ijab? because back then men fucked everything 3adi Alyana says: thats why God sent a rasool for every time period Sa3ed says: im not done -- lol Alyana says: ok.. Sa3ed says: xD people are different at each time. People had no value for food, and an excessive amount of food was like a luxury, even if half of it went to waste. they used to eat bil habal. fasting is like bringing the idea of "dont eat too much, but understand the value of everything" religions themselves even as a whole indirectly, if you think deep enough, it says "enjoy your freedom, but don't step on other people's toes that's the golden rule don't hurt anyone it depends on the time and i dont fast because i dont eat too much, i dont spend too much, im very careful about certain things and i know you're supposed to follow the rule, but if you have the essence and the cause of the rule instated in you, why must you keep fasting? sure it will instill the idea of fasting in you, but trust me, i know the value of everything due to fasting on other things in life other than food and cursing, i dont spend too much that's like fasting the discipline of fasting could be learnt in many ways the schools teach you discipline your home teaches you discipline if you're poor you learn discipline about eating too much and spending too much and you learn to be careful you learn to tihnk not ONLY through fasting so my opinion is that i dont have to fast because i am already learning what is meant to be learnt through my lifestyle and my conditions of living and im sure that god would understand that so i dont stick to one religion and my belief about religion is that i have none, because religion in our time is nothing but politics best example is terrorism in the name of islam back in the rasool's days they fought smartly mish suicidally they retreated when they had t to and they used force when they wanted to tell the others to be careful now they're doing it mindlessly, it's not religion at all so my belief is that religions are politics and that god does exist but i reach god by taking from everything i learn about him Sa3ed says: i read about satanism (i learned to fight back if someon treads on my feet too much) i read about bhuddism (and learned about simplicity in lifestyle) i read about christianity (learned about forgiveness) read about and was raised with islam (and i learned about discipline and the value of freedom and how people can ruin god for others) so no i dont believe that i NEED to follow rules to please god i meditate/pray through music since prayer is in fact meditation and focussing of mind power in a direction
Sa3ed says: i meditate when i play music and go into a trance through playing the guitar and getting caught up with a melody i pray when i sit in silence i learn the value of my life and health when i smoke and i learn the beauty of being sober after im drunk thats what i believe in the end phew t3ibet Alyana says: *claps* a5eeran
Alyana says: what i waned to sa saed Weedz says: ya 5ayen u deleted me Alyana says: some of what u said made sense and others didnts Weedz says: LOOL Alyana says: am talking Weedz says: go ahead plz
Sa3ed says: i didnt delete you i always see you online o.0 Alyana says: u saidu beleive that every person should be his own prophet Alyana says: and a summary of what u said Weedz says: i dont c u Sa3ed says: no i didnt say that lol Weedz says: elmohem lets listen to what alyana is saying Alyana says: is that u have ur own ways in.. praying and learing values and those things Sa3ed says: i said that some people followed some prophers ideas coz it fit their lives. and thats waht i think everyone should do yeah Alyana says: well thats wrong coz prophets were sent in different times and places for different people like for examply 8awm loo6 but what we believe in Sa3ed says: it's not wrong Alyana says: is that we know phrophet mohd is the last prophet who gave us ALL the rules of life past, present and future Sa3ed says: i disagree he is the last prophet but the world changes Alyana says: exatly Sa3ed says: their world is gone, it's time for a new religion to be here Weedz says: but u see .. i disagree that he gave us rules Alyana says: have u ever read Quraan? Weedz says: the world changes Sa3ed says: well not literally Weedz says: n he knew that Alyana says: have u heard of shyookh? Weedz says: n so did God... they didnt give rules Islam isnt a set of rules like many make it to be its a framework Alyana says: Quraan has things lissa el 3elem ma 3irfo Sa3ed says: dude, im not arguing about islam Alyana says: ma ana beddi awaslan to the point of why u should fast Weedz says: its really not that hard do you believe in God?! Sa3ed says: yes, but not in religions Alyana says: u dont believe in religions coz of what u see from others thats wrong Weedz says: ma da5al... u believe there an all mighty being out there n if it wasnt for that all mighty being u wouldnt be here? Sa3ed says: if you put it that way, no :\ see you guys kinda ruin the beauty of god too its like everyone puts god as "the ruler" or "the dude who'll kick your ass if you're bad" i see him as the person who forgives you and helps you out hes not egotistical such that he'd want everyone to just bow down to him Alyana says: wel he does forgive you he helps u a lot Sa3ed says: i know that Alyana says: he keeping u alive now Sa3ed says: see now ur makign him like a warden Weedz says: u may believe God, Allah, Yahwe', Mother Nature, Father Time.......... whatever it is you want to believe..... but the Question is do you believe in that power that over rules all?! Sa3ed says: dude it doesn't rule us, it's not a politician lol thats what i hate about religion most of all lol it's just there Weedz says: I don't believe in a God I fear either I believe in a God I love ... Sa3ed says: yeah, and hes cool he gets my jokes and understands art Weedz says: 7elu very nice Sa3ed says: and for my part i play music and enjoy the beauty of nature Weedz says: he's there... thats what I want to get to. Sa3ed says: he doesnt go "DUDE MA TAKOL I WILL MAKE YOU WALK ON A THIN KNIFE" Weedz says: like Oxygen is there and like Trees are there Sa3ed says: yeah it's just part of everything Weedz says: exactly Sa3ed says: everything has a soul, and hes the soul of the universe Weedz says: He IS everything .. not literally but I mean present in everything u believe that ?! yes !? Sa3ed says: yeah and it's a she just coz i can believe that lol Weedz says: LOL Sa3ed says: alyana comments? Weedz says: I believe He is an IT! Alyana says: well sorry its not a SHE Sa3ed says: yeah should be Weedz says: an energy source a power Alyana says: wala IT its an HE Sa3ed says: oh god.. Weedz says: ma da5al.... Alyana says: well that what I believe in
I might be childish and a dumbass but I'm not an airhead, I'm a deep thinker though it doesn't show at all, I value my friends over many many things, I♥MUSIC [lol], I love guitars and drums and could just look at them and have a good time, I like alcohol if I'm with friends [possibly a guitar, too; though if you drink too much you can't play well] and I'm a bit lazy.